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OUR RESPONSE:  07/23/2007  Very sorry for not making our point clear on the subject of solvents

Hey mate sorry for the late reply,

 I must try and make this clear, as my mates write up was not telling the whole deal, what is going on is there is a large combination of solvents being mixed at one time, not just BB and BA, and the fact many do not truly know what the raw hormones they are using, and if the production standards are tech grade or USP, there is also toxic solvents used in this production.  And mates are mixing our position on this with IP Pharma out of China.  The bottom line it is the combination of solvents, and the product you speak of is meant to be done in small doses and to do 3 to 5 times what the dosing states is common behavior, this is were BB becomes toxic at 20% as you are actually using much more then 20% BB by doing such high dosing, and not following instructions.  Most chaps are doing between 500 to 2000 mg per week of Test and many other types of hormones all at high levels of BB and BA, this spells trouble, so we will do our best to clear that up.

WHEN YOU DO YOUR MATH NOW IT EQUALS TOXIC!

LETS EXPLAIN;

We here at CLR would like to better explain the use of solvents, primary one Benzyl Benzoate, we had had a reader, and seen several post on the subject of Schering Laboratories use of 100 mg and 200 mg per ml Testosterone Depot (Test Cyp)

First; yes this is correct statement that this DEPOT BASE INJECTION DOES HAVE 20% BB, But we here at CLR are thinking for gods sake mates why and the hell would a company use 20% BB in a Testosterone that takes very little solvent to break down?

Well 99% of the bath tub boys are looking at the picture wrong and basing their facts off of one product a Depot injection product, well you are asking what the difference is?  “Big difference” as the BB is not being used in anyway as a solvent; I personally never use BB as a solvent, but why? The answer is quite simple “Once we picked up the telly and called the men in charge”.  This products number one use is for men with low Natural Testosterone levels, second use that this company has been working on for many years to prefect is its use as male birth control, sorry to say with little success, yes it does work but requires injection at least every 10 to 14 days, This is not practical from a medical stand point.  This is where the BB comes into place, in laymen’s terms BB is used as a bonding agent “in so many words”  the great thing about BB is it bonds to the Testosterone Molecule itself when injected unlike Benzyl Alcohol that the blood washes away within the muscle within minutes leaving the Test crystals behind in the muscle itself,  well Schering was working on a way to prolong the absorption of the hormone, and BB is the answer as it does not get washed away by the blood in your muscle, but bonds to the crystals within allowing this product to stay in the system longer at a slower rate of absorption period, hence the term Depot injection,  this product is meant to be injected every 7 to 14 day 200 mg per shot,  and at 20% BB  this is far from toxic to the man that is only using to up his test levels, not the athlete who is trying to build quality lean muscle mass,  this is a completely different story!

So many very simple minded twits are tying to convince not only themselves and many others that if a legal lab like Schering is doing this it must be safe, sure it is if you are administering as instructed, but we all know that is not the case, many mates are doing 3 to 10 times this dose in a week and not to add all the other types of hormones they are combining within that same week.

Take this Test Depot and up the dose this many times and you are killing your liver and kidneys period!  We hope we do not have to get into this much more as you the athlete should understand what we are trying to say?  If not, it is not time for you to be using anabolics period!

We Hope this helps you out, and if you have any further questions please feel free to ask, as we enjoy the many very kind questions being asked with out being morons on the subject.  As we are here to try are best to help, and even though all of us have many years under our belts does not mean we are perfect.

Read on and the rest should make better sense, sorry for not making this point clear in the first place.  

God Bless

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Dear Mark

I have been following this site to gain some info on the current trends Of AAS. To be quite honest I don,t know what to think of you and Mick Hart. I know Mick Backs up a membership website where you can gain some insider info, I was going to join up, But friend came across Meso board, and long story short friend found Advanced Stealth. friend recently obtained a couple of products, The Tren-100mg/mland the Sustanon 250. Friend was kind of worried about quality but my friend tried the product anyway. He has taken 5 shots of the tren at 100mg EOD, and has had no incidents at this time. No swelling, no redness, the product also did not have any unusual smells. Like gas as one of your E-mails had stated.I know his problem was with the winnie, wich is funny cause my friend was gonna make a order for said product. So obviously he is having second guesses now. As far as the product is going now friend states that he is getting great pumps w/increased hardness as well as increase overall size, and he has not been running the product very long. Friend states he is impressed with the product. Its diong what tren should.

Friend also feels that if you are trying to help people and keep them safe, why dont you give out good sources or figure out a way to help others obtain this info.Insted of hoarding it for yourself. If you gus need some money to help pay for a lab analysis let me know. Friend would send samples of his product to test. I am not taking sides I only want the cold hard truth not your side and their side.

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Great Email from one of the many mates who follow CLR:

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Potimus Intense Asshole!   Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,995

That site is complete bullshit. I dont see one actual Lab report on there. Their so-called garbage report is nothng but words. Not facts or anything.   ANSWER: I would like to answer this little TWAT. First if you would take the time to read the site, we explain the reasons for not posting open lab reports on finished product, as it is the most unethical practice you can do in this business, to easy to give credit to a shit outfit and discredit a good operation, lab testing on finished product you little cunt is a personal issue, not to be posted open, as it is not reliable. And to say that all of us on CLR mission is to promote Animal Illume is once again, a few idiots that do not want to see real and legal products on the Market, and I do not live in Mexico City, nor does any of the 12 members that research for this site. All the products posted here come from consumers’ that have most likely been fucked by little cunts like you. This site is done to help out! Fellows like myself, all the other mates on here Mick Hart, Dave P and his MD team take time to give out information that you have to pay for, we do not sell anything here and make it quite clear that we do not. It just so happens the AI, is the first real and legal operation to hit Mexico under the new laws, and there is several others coming out as well, I suppose we will be behind that as well. The real underground operations do not want to be posted openly, they are not like these cunts GNXXL and the many others who feel the need to banner up at all ends of the underground. So shut the fuck up, and if you do not like the site then do not come over to it. PERIOD! Sorry to say you little twat, we have many people with us not against us.  But i do like fucks like you as we know we are doing our job well! BTW, Little fellow, when you have 20+ years under your belt feel free to let us here from you.  ________________________________________________________________________________   From a good mate in Mexico city: Interesting site gentlemen, but why is the English on the site so fucked up – I’m talking grammar and spelling, not profanity… Next time you’re in Mexico City let’s have a tequila. Saludos, A A***** Sen****** ______________________________________ Answer: Mate, You are reading many different articles, from Spanish, China, Norway, Sweden, UK, and the USA there is a big mix on the site, the bottom line is you get the point. Mick hart and Dave P are professional writers who can afford to have editors, this is the real world and how things are in the real world, not all are English majors. Take care, and hope to see you some day _________________________________________________________________________________

Email from one of our viewers: 06/13/2007

I currently finished reading the entire contents of the Consumer

Lab Reports web page(s).  I noticed that they are saying genxxl are

scammers and the fbi is currently investigating them.  They also

gave British Dragon a 1 star rating(being the lowest)and noted that

they wouldn't even use British Dragon on their dog.  Now I'm really

confused here because I have ordered from Genxxl's gear site and

they have done nothing but good to me.  If i got anything seized

they would re-ship it to me as long as I showed proof of custom

letters.  Also I had a bottle break in the mail and they replaced

that too.  Also i was under the impression that British Dragon made

high quality products and seem to be very well known and have a

good reputation.  i have also had good results from using their

products.  I am in no way shape or form trying to argue I just want

to know what's best and safe from me.  Whats right and whats wrong.

 how come you guys think Genxxl are scammers if they have over 7000

customers who place multiple orders? just wondering why u guys

think that cuz there must be a good reason for if ya'll are saying

that and hopefully can find out what it is. PLEASE EMAIL ME BACK

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Just In from Our good friend Mick.  Just a lttle silly, but had to post this email he just recieved 5/15/2007   **Do not forget to read Micks thoughts on Insulin use on stop the insanity**

 "Prove It Mick"

I got a great email in my inbox which really made me stop
and think. Here it is:

  "Hi Mick,

  "I'm thinking of buying your Layman's Guides I, II and
  III, but I have doubts.

  "I have doubts about spending my money online, (I'm a
  total tight bastard so spending is a problem for me
  anyway), I have doubts about you because I don't know you,
  and I have doubts about whether the information will be
  useful to me."

  "Please send me your comments.

  "Thanks, Paul K******"


Well you know what Paul, those are great comments, so I'm
going to attempt to answer them for you here:


1. "Doubts About Spending My Money Online"

I recently read that there is less risk using a credit card
online via a secure server than there is using it in the
high street. The Internet is nothing new now, and online
payments are simply quite normal, and extremely safe.

We take payments for our Layman's Guides via Clickbank.com
they are one of the leading online payment processors. So
there's nothing to worry about there mate.


2. "Doubts Because I Don't Know You"

I can understand that. We've never met. Take this into
consideration though...

* My REAL address and telephone numbers are on my websites
(no PO box and answering machine nonsense).

* My sites have been online for about 6 years or more.

* I've been teaching this stuff for over 25 years.

* You're on my list, along with about another 40,000 other
people, I also have close to 15,000 customers who have
bought online from me (plus my offline Training Business,
which has been going for many years). So I'm not new here.

* And please view any of my sites (see the links below) and
you'll learn all about the Magazine I founded and run, the
(close to) 500 gyms I have designed and built, the TV
appearances I've made...and much more.

Hopefully this proves I'm not some fool who's just gained
25lbs, and has some Photoshop enhanced before and after pic,
trying to sell you a bunch of crap.


3. "Doubts About Whether The Information Will Work For Me"

Yes, I have competed myself, so I know what it is to build
muscle. Sure, I have trained other people to competition
levels (this is very well documented), BUT...

...most importantly, most of my joy and pleasure comes from
regular guys applying the information I teach and achieving
great gains - safely!

Visit any of my sites to see testimonials from people, there
are literally hundreds of comments from regular guys who
have applied what I teach and had awesome results.

Here's the links to my Layman's Guides... I urge you to
spend some time and read the comments from people on these
sites.

You'll see 90% are regular guys, who have produced
extraordinary results.

- Layman's Guides to Steroids I and II
http://www.bodybuildingandsteroids.com/laymans-index.htm

- Layman's Guides to Steroids III (new)
http://www.bodybuildingandanabolicsteroids.com


Train hard and be strong,

Mick Hart.

Founder of Mick Hart Training Systems and
the No Bull Collection Magazine.

If you enjoy these emails please forward them onto a
friend, or tell your friend to simply send a blank email to
mailto:ezine@nobullcollection.com to receive them him or
herself.


........................................

Mick Hart Training Systems
9 High Street
Chesterfield
Derbyshire S43 4EY
United Kingdom

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Big Mick had his first little Bitch that wanted his money back for the No Bull, here is how it went:

"GIVE ME MONEY BACK THIS INFORMATION IS INDECENT"

As you know the Online No Bull Subscription has a "no
questions asked money back guarantee". And this week, we
gave the cash back to our very first unhappy subscriber.

Here's the mail we got from our friend "Wolfgang":

"I downloaded your past magazine and your book.. I find it
hard to believe you charge for this kind of indecent
information. Please refund my full payment as I felt
dissatisfied the minute I read "Tears on a Keyboard". I find
your information not only useless, but very indecent."
- Wolfgang

and here's Mick's thoughts:

"All I can say is thank you Wolfgang my friend. The fact
that the magazine IS hardcore, indecent, shocking, has
little or NO adverts, it's also funny and downright ME!

Your comments are a true indication of the goals that I set
years ago and that was NOT TO BE LIKE THE REST! The book,
"Tears on a Keyboard" was written to help and obviously to
shock in order to save lives you fuck wit!

You have made my day and hope that your next shit is a BIG
hedghog - now, please do us a favour and fuck off and buy
another mag that WILL give you what you want my friend."
- Mick (laughing his bollocks off) Hart

3/14/2007

Need a laugh Mates, read this one from GENXXL.com:

EMAIL REPLY:

03/04/2007 Silver Dragon Labs AKA Silver Back Labs

REBUTTAL:

--- ***usive@cyber-rights.net wrote:

From: "Private" <***usive@cyber-rights.net>

To: <Mark-Finland@consumerlabreports.co.uk>

Cc:

Subject: Hey

Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 04:17:35 -0800

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Mark,

I think your website is very informative and serves a great duty.

The only inaccuracy that is completely false deals with SDL and SB.

They aren't the same lab nor is SDL bunk. I keep a few different

Labels on hand and SDL have gotten the best reviews. Can't speak on

The part of scamming although I personally have never been scammed.

They actually offer products before payment so you must not be

Speaking of a cash scam.

Just a heads up on that one. The few people who are affiliated with

SDL will confirm that as well. It will ruin your credibility. Makes

Your site look paid off and false.

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CLR: REPORT ON SILVER DRAGON LABS AND OR SILVER BACK LABS. THIS COMPANY OPENLY MADE THIS CLAIM THAT THEY WERE ONCE SILVER BACK THEN CHANGED TO SILVER DRAGON. (We are currently trying to obtain the original email that made this claim)

Sir,

First thank you for your email. Now on Silver dragon labs (Based out of Canada correct) we are in no way saying they stole money (THESE REPORTS WE POSTED OPENLY BY UNDERGROUND FORUM MEMBERS). It is the mega dosing of their Products, and if you read through our site you will understand that in order to create these types of dosing it takes high % of solvents that are very toxic to the body.  We know who they buy their lab supplies from, and the questions being asked are ones that show they truly do not know what they are doing, nor the production areas that these products are produced in are even close to a GMP standards, this is the reasons for the rating, now there may be others that are counterfeiting them but sir, what we are saying is in order to produce the doses that are promoted it takes high levels of toxic solvents. Consumer Lab reports will never lose its credibility I can assure you of this, as we have some of the biggest names in the industry behind us. IF SDL is doing things by the book we will most certainly take them off the site. OR IF THE COMPANY IS BEING DISCREDITED BY AN OUTSIDE SOURCE PLEASE REPUTE THERE REPUTATION. THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE LOSS OF MONEY HAS BEEN REPORTED ON SEVERAL SITES. AND SB MADE A CLAIM TO A VERY RELIABLE SOURCE THAT THEY HAD CHANGED THEIR NAME.

**When any Underground operation attempts to change their Name, usually the main reason is the theft of money**. 

CLR is operated by Mark Finland, Better Business Consumer Reporting Agency.

www.consumerlabreports.co.uk

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To SDL from the CLR team, you have the chance to repute your reputation and we will formerly apologies

And retract the report that has been posted. CLR goes to great lengths and research before we rate any operation, and we are honorable enough to say the information provided was misleading, But we want all to know that the practice of high dosing of these powerful hormones is dangerous and that alone will cause us to give the low ratings we do. As we are here to educate the many young mates that are being misled by this type of production, and the conditions in which these products are being produced. We hope to hear back and all communications from this point on will be private.

CLR is not here to hurt any honorable operation, nor are we here to help endorse honorable operations, we have one mission, and that is to educate.  In today’s market there is a lot of garbage out there, and it is pleasing to hear of any operation underground or legal that has honor in its business practice. IF we are wrong about our reporting, then please show us why.

The CRL Team

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03/04-2007  YOU BITCH, YOU JUST BUSTED YOUR SELF.  OUR HOME PAGE IS QUITE CLEAR! 

First mate, I blocked out your email, most of it as you can see, now you come back and say we are not who we say we are, I am not pinning you as the lab owner, first you say SDL and SB are not the same , Now the tone has changed. once again, you all will soon find out who we are. the big boys of anabolics. It sounds to me that you are the one full of shit. read our site!!!! Now you will get rebuttals from some of the biggest boys in the business. what happened mate? And the evidence!  Most obviously the evidence is speaking for itself!

THE PLOT GETS DEEPER. AND SO DOES THE SHIT. WE GAVE YOU A CHANCE, AND YOU FUCKED IT JUST AS OUR PEOPLE CLAIMED!!!

--- exclusive@cyber-rights.net wrote:

From: "Private" <exclusive@cyber-rights.net>

To: "Mark Finland" <Mark-finland@consumerlabreports.co.uk>

Cc:

Subject: Re: Hey

Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:41:06 -0800

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Exclusively Private

Alright, please remove this email from the site. Your few asterics

does not help. You are pinning me as the lab owner. You are jumping

to many conclusions without any evidence. This site is not as legit

as I had first suspected. SB changed to SDL because SB is a

bodybuilder who asked them to change, most know that. Not sure

where you are gathering your information.

What are you talking about high doses? test 250 is high now?

Anyway, please remove my email and rebutal. This is not as unbias

as I thought.

Thanks.

EP

PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR DEFINITION OF UNBIASED??? YOU MAY WANT THE OWNER TO CLEAR THIS UP AS YOU ARE NOT DOING A VERY GOOD JOB. AND OUR SOURCES OF INFORMATION IS BIGGER THEN YOU CAN EVER IMAGINE

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PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!

Please donot e-mail any member or staff  of Consumer Lab Reports for SOURCES.  We will not provide any Sources at any time!!!!!  Consumer Lab Reports is a nonprofit organization trying to inform and educate unaware  individuals  who purchase products from underground labs, about the dangers of these products and the underground Chemist that produce them.  Consumer Lab Reports feels it is time to inform the masses of the seriousness of this problem that now plagues our industry. We are group of individuals who care and share the same views and "ethics".  Once again I will repeat,"We are not here to provide any individual with SOURCES", please do not ask!!!!!!!  Feel free to take a look around the site and enjoy all the educational information that we are providing.

Sincerely,

Lee Lewis
Legal Private Investigator consumerlabreports.co.uk